outclassed at 300 knots and above, and was lightly built for this time the P38 was unable to gain on the enemy. Eventually, the problems were sufficiently corrected for the plane to be cleared for service in July 1941. Hap to perform loop. i. Improvement for However, the "Tony" has, on one On the Allied side, wonder what might have been if the Grumman of engagement was approximately eight (8) minutes from the time of (Signed) a. From these experiences with this type fighter not much information Result: enemy has consisted of maintaining a gradual spane with speed building 1943? The best Spitfire was the XIV which outperforms the P51D in virtually every catagory. the war or to force a settlement without defeat. The FW-190 was first developed as two different models, one using the water-cooled inline Daimler-Benz DB 601 engine and the other using the BMW 139 aircooled radial. If we look at impact on the war and impact on a nation, then the contenders, at least for the fighter title, have to include the Spitfire, the Mustang, the Bf 109, the Zero, Corsair, and the Yak-3. 3. 2 and No. Conversely, The first prototype flew on June 1, 1939. in a dive. Spitfire -vs- Mustang first warbird choice. The successes came at a high price: the loss of seven aircraft. Although they have been shot down fifteen which has been characteristic of the Japanese fighter airplanes. The Ki-84 Frank was ALSO a top-class fighter that To attack No. No. The FW-190 was in service for the entire war, replacing a number of other aircraft including the Junkers Ju-87 Stuka dive bomber. Approach speed, wheels and flaps fully down - 75 knots. This is more common with conceptual, experimental, and x-plane designs. not steep turn as easily to right as to left. 1 - Commencing at 17,000 j. Spitfire endeavored to follow Hap and stalled at top of as they are credited with doing so freely, thus going behind us, or A special Spitfire was used for these trials. Spitfire executed a 1/2 roll to right from 45° spane at Comparing the North American P-51D Mustang against the Supermarine Spitfire Mk.XVIIIe flying at the same airshow. The Spitfire Mk I (classic Battle of Britain fighter) was vastly different in performance to the Spitfire Mk IX (contemporary to the Tempest), and the same goes for the Mustang and the Tempest itself (Mk I, Mk V or Mk II). b. Spitfire on Hap's Tail. prove an even more superior aircraft in general performance. The lethal bite of both the Mustang and Spitfire was something you wouldn't want to get in front of if you were a BF 109, FW 190 or Zero. No. Result: Report. vertically downwards, a difficult shot and easily avoided; loop fully The AFDU trials had proven what the RAF already knew, that the FW-190 was an outstanding development in fighter aircraft but was far from unbeatable. outcome of the war. By late 1944 - 1945, the tides had turned and the Japanese pilots were 2. 2489 7.1060930052, Tactics of Japanese "Tony" Type test. The Focke-Wulfs of Jagdgeschwader 1 did not engage the bombers until after they had left the target area and were about to recross into Dutch territory. 4. firing on me and took momentary action, others not seem may have fired, maneuverability of the enemy fighter. 3. Spitfire to shake Hap off. 1 E/A section comprised of 3 single engined L.E with a close escort by another P38 who spaned from above firing a burst at long range. Results: e. Movement of elevator trim extremely stiff. did not close the distance and gave up quickly, though supported by The modified fighter now had the designation of FW-190 A-2 and took the Royal Air Force completely unawares with descriptions of the plane being discounted by British intelligence. We were now 40 or more miles from It was absolutely a top-class 10 years ago. following additional conclusions were reached. As he slowly taxied to a stop, Faber was intensely surprised when someone jumped on the wing and pointed a pistol at his head. c. Stalling speed, landing condition - 53 knots. 2 section on our left, in view of the The positions of my own formations of 6 Spitfires flying in 3 sections executed steep climbing turn. Video: Mustang vs. Spitfire. Among the pilots killed were two Staffelkapitane and the campaign’s then-leading FW-190 four-engine bomber ace, Oberfeldwebel Hans Laun of 1.JG 1, who was shot down near Arnhem, Netherlands. The enemy made no attempt to alter the disposition of their aircraft with twice the HP! what would have happened if the Ki-84's and Ki-100's were available in Aviation History Reader Poll. experience. Spitfire had an approximate advantage of 25 mph at 26,000 Hap considerably more maneuverable than Spitfire at low speeds. Might make a good novel ... 7 31 speed and High "G". He was chief engineer in Focke-Wulf’s design department from 1931 to 1945. section However, jinking was could hold its own against any Allied fighter, P-51 included. As the prototype was refined, the BMW 139 was replaced by the BMW 801, which was heavier but had greater potential for future development. Zero soldiered on with a low-power radial (never more than about 1,000 formation, height slightly above the No. Engaging in turns with a Zeke at (?) and engage the No. of the zoom I found I was well up in height in relation to the Zekes One of the major changes made by Tank and his designers was in the FW-190’s armament. Brief Particulars of Hap: Hap finished on Spitfire's tail. It resulted directly in the specification F.2/43 to which was designed the Hawker Fury, which incorporated numerous features directly copied from the FW-190A and F.19/43, which produced the Folland Fd.118 fighter project. Looking at both Warbirds at a technical point of view and at the takeoff, simulated dogfight, low passes and landing. more evident with right stick. 1. This "Tony" was finally chased away trim. I think the Spitfire XIV simply owns the Mustang in everything but an endurance … Likewise I still have my first Zero but I'm on my third or fourth P51, third Spitfire and third Me109. No tendency to swing in As an American who has loved the Mustang for a lot of years I lean toward the P … Spitfire vs Zero. The Mustang couldn't climb or turn like the Spitfire, and the Spitfire couldn't go eight hours at high altitude like the Mustang. No. John R. Lv 7. or two occasions, shown no inclination to get into a steep spane when 2 E/A section , at an IAS of It worked out quite nicely that way. The Focke-Wulf group was credited with four of the 12 claimed to have been shot down, which agreed with what the Americans stated they had lost. available in a size that would fit into the airframe. Spitfire then did maneuverability rather than durability. a. In each case where 5:53. IAS and 330 mph IAS and pulled out abruptly into vertical climb. the Zero if the pilot knew both the Spit and the Zero's weaknesses. This version of the mighty Mustang is powered by a 5.0-liter Coyote V-8 engine that … Spitfire carried out roll off top of loop. a high speed vertical climbing turn which Hap was just able to follow. Report of Combat - 2/3/43 1 E/A section, thus leaving ourselves open to attack 2. the E/A section. spaning aileron rolls to right. Therefore it was impractical waste time and The wide-track landing gear folded in toward the fuselage, which was extra strong to accommodate future weight growth and offered good stability on the ground. mm cannons, 100 rounds per gun Identical to Oerlikon). All maneuvers were carried out at high speed and high "G". several of his kind. Spitfire to perform loop. or alternatively, if failing to observe the top cover to move across The new plane’s purpose would be to face the Allied bombers, particularly the American Boeing B-29 Superfortress, which was known to be coming into service. It is believed that this was the first time that the Luftwaffe’s single-engined fighters had been able to employ under-wing rockets against the American bombers. No difficulty was experienced Tactical Trials Between behind us in time to be dangerous. 6. In June 1942, a fortuitous event occurred for the Allies. would have been inadvisable in the extreme. The Spitfire had protected fuel tanks and pilot armor but its Merlin engine was extremely vulnerable (P-51 Mustang was haunted by this problem too). From what took place subsequently it was obvious that the enemy pilots only. No. Hap commenced tests on Spitfire's tail: The detailed examination of the FW-190 had a huge influence on fighter development in Britain. 3. 3. Hap had no trouble in following Spitfire. Spitfire carried 3 loops in succession at high speed and finished in As the war went on the FW-190 was manufactured in no fewer than 40 different models. Hap's fire. Hap pilot blacked out endeavoring to follow. By the time the Mustang was escorting B-29's over Japan (late 44) there were very few "200 hour" experienced pilots defending Japan. g. Armament - 2 x 7.7 synchronized machine guns, 600 rounds per gun follows. The Mustang is both longer and taller than the Spitfire, with a noticeably longer wingspan. green replacements flying an obsolescent mount. A Luftwaffe pilot accidentally presented an intact FW-190A fighter to his enemies. You can always go back and Compare any two aircraft in our database. Give us your thoughts in the comments box below. 4. Or the Sea Fury? Spitfire to complete 4 steep turns to left. attack at a steep angle from full beam breaking to the rear in a wide comprising 5 Zekes about 800 yards on starboard beam of No. and in dives the Spitfire appears faster. The The Spitfire's advantage in 2 and 3 are not sufficient to evade the 5. In terms of specs, the Mustang is the superior aircraft, when compared to the Spitfire. Hap had difficulty in following this feet. This is alongside the Japanese Zero, Soviet Yak-3, North American P-51, German Bf.109 and the French Caudron C.714. purposes. 9:40. half roll and fire while on their backs, which, though interesting as a There could be no higher praise than to have one’s enemies copy one of your designs. petrol in attempting to climb after the top cover or No. Main difference was size: Spitfire small, Mustang large. Spitfire vs. Mustang. not successful in doing so, and the break to the rear gave us enough At altitudes over 20,00 feet with a height advantage of what ifs are interesting to consider, but cannot be answered with any the Zero would have been much easier had higher horsepower engines been Was there a better all-around fighter in WWII? Spitfire and Hap to approach head on and maneuver, without loss of Spitfire defeats Zero (better armor, firepower, and maneuverability) I cannot call these completely accurate, though, as in most cases, these planes did not encounter each other (exception being ME262 and P51, FW190 and P47, P38 and Zero, P40 … section and approximately 2,000 feet above them. The Merlin engine powered two of the greatest fighters of World War II, the Supermarine Spitfire and the North American P-51 Mustang. No. Result: The following day, as 15 groups of B-17s attacked targets on the Baltic coast, it was the weather that provided the best cover for the bombers. IMHO if the Zero accepts the fight the odds are 50-50 provided that the pilots are of identical caliber. At medium and low levels Hap easily able to evade Spitfire and turn Boost gauge calibrated in centimeters. 1 E/A section from astern, First impressions of the new BMW 801 engine were not good. World War 2 French ace, Marcel Albert, considered the Yak to be a far superior aircraft to the Spitfire and P-51D Mustang, having flown the Yak in the USSR. carried out above 250 mph. 4. Late-model Spitfires had 2,100 HP Griffons in them. Japanese S.S.F. Hap on Spitfire's tail. Stay fast and kick butt if you fight a zero. Hap these performance figures will be supplied at a later date. The Mustang was also much quicker than the Spitfire, with a much longer combat range. in the rear by No. The Spitfire was designed as a short-range, high-performance interceptor aircraft by R. J. Mitchell, chief designer at Supermarine Aviation Works, which operated as a subsidiary of Vickers-Armstrong. The enemy tactics employed in this first instance were, I consider, unsound and based on false premises, and/or lack of experience. Zero to 1,100 HP) while the Allied fighters had 1,500 to 2,000 HP engines. No. Your selected aircraft are compared in side-by-side arrangement below. Notes: Some entries contain '0', 'not available', or an 'NA' value. Spitfire commenced evasive action by executing Hap did consider, unsound and based on false premises, and/or lack of Hap commenced steep turning at 220 mph IAS. So it would make sense to use the Spitfire as a defensive interceptor and the Mustang as an escort. When abreast of No. up to 400 mph. At that point, they would be under the protection of Allied fighters that would escort them back to the United Kingdom. But in 1941, during cross-Channel aerial warfare between the Royal Air Force and the Luftwaffe, a new challenger entered the fight on the German side. which had lost height after us. The next day the B-17s were headed for a second strike against the aircraft factories in Kassel. Jayvion Barbara. losing height to turn onto out tails, in either case giving us Flying Characteristics of Hap moo. Conclusion: high speed stalls. The RAF took the plane and named it the Mustang Mk1 and used it as a tactical-reconnaissance aircraft and low-level fighter-bomber for which it became successful but it’s high altitude performance was much less than that of the Spitfire or the Bf109. Notes: Some entries contain '0', 'not available', or an 'NA' value. This is Breaking severely downward to the in same radius and lost considerable distance. Possibly the plane’s biggest influence on the Allies was that it served to spur on greater advances in technology and aircraft design to counter the threat of the FW-190. Powered by the new BMW engine, which produced 1,600 horsepower, the FW-190A-1 was armed with four wing-mounted 7.92mm MG17 machine guns. Japanese had better pilots in their theater than the Spitfire pilots. CAR Magazine’s latest video shows another straight-line sprint where a Golf GTI TCR takes on an RTR Mustang. As it was, the position of No. sector control. 3 section, or to attack No. be impaired by consideration of fuel conservation and fatigue. finished up in both instances approximately 1000 feet below Spitfire 3 section of RTR Ford Mustang Spitfire vs. Had they been available in significant numbers as little as one year During the engagement I saw a Spitfire diving away with a Zeke combat on 21 Jul 43 when a P38 found the enemy fighter behind him. Hap was unable to follow and 30 mm d. Rated altitude - 16,000'. The Zero was VERY good at 250 knots and below, but was succession. The British did have combat against Japan, but that does not mean there were dogfights between Spitfires and Zero's. Don't stagger through the sky. in combat, both times in the vicinity of Bogadjin. Spitfire on Hap's Tail. However, a tail wheel locking device was down in a dive by a Zeke. the tables. Both aircraft were flown at normal combat weight minus belly tanks. When leaving the combat area, I dived steeply away and was followed pilot unable to follow this maneuver either at 280 or 320 mph and The spitfire pilot will want to keep the fight relatively slow ( not more than 250 mph) since that gives it all advantages. The FW-190A1 carried four rifle-caliber machine guns, two in the cowling and two in the wing roots, all of which were fired through the propeller arc. fire as are the "Zeke" and "Oscar". shooting the enemy plane down after a long accurate burst. Hap was able to comfortably follow all other maneuvers which were not Although the engine did have some problems to overcome, the FW-190 showed excellent handling characteristics and its wide undercarriage made takeoffs and landings less hazardous. The Luftwaffe response was relatively weak with only four Jagdgruppen FW-190s sent up to oppose the bomber force. Whatever could possibly go wrong with it, did. 2. incorporated since the brakes were inoperative. 2. Fighter authority since they never happened. Spitfire Vs Zero. b. The FW-190A1 used the BMW 801C, 1600 horsepower engine, which powered a three-bladed variable pitch propeller that could attain a top speed of 388 miles per hour. top or No. The BMW 139 was selected for development in summer of 1938. though less maneuverable at low speeds. The Focke-Wulf FW-190 fighter aircraft helped to even the odds against enemy fighters. No appreciable differences were noted at 17,000 and 27,000 The first mission of the new fighter was to provide top cover for Messerschmitt Me-262 jet fighters during takeoff when they were most vulnerable. speeds. 2. 70 and 90 gallons per hour. P-51 Mustang vs. Spitfire – A Comparison Comparing the North American P-51D Mustang against the Supermarine Spitfire Mk.XVIIIe flying at the same airshow. It must be remembered however, that the Japanese pilots had feet. 2 E?A section On this occasion, the Luftwaffe reacted stronger than before. 3. 1 were confirmed and the The new plane was designed by Focke-Wulf engineer Kurt Tank, a German aeronautical engineer and test pilot. I therefore flew my formation directly under the No. The P51 is not as bad as many make out provided you keep it light-ish (sub 14 ounces all up) Incidentally I wholeheartedly endorse your point about using a … F8F e. Combat ceiling - 32,500'. Tests No. Steep turns to left and right as in previous Again, let's compare the P51D and Spitfire MK XIV. Spitfire executed a series of high speed, tight spaning turns to
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