I like to imagine her steadily ascending the class ladder until she reappears in Season 9 as the barrister handling Mr. Bates seventh appeal trial. One of the Crawley sisters got knocked up by her older married boyfriend, who promptly went missing. The family name is Crawley, and Matthew was the earls third cousin, and had the same surname. The new husband is required to take the family name in order to receive his father-in-laws title. That would be nice, except it seems clear from the start of season five that Edith is sadder than ever. I hope this makes sense. Did we lose one along the way? This is perhaps most easily understood through eye color, where brown eye color, a dominant gene, is expressed as BB and blue eye color, a recessive gene, is expressed as bb. Titles cannot be passed through the mother only through the father. ), and had a thing for her (yay! The second and subsequent sons are styled The Honourable William. After finding Edith in London, a plan is concocted whereby the daughter Marigold will be raised in the house with the other two grandchildren already there. I dont remember Annas position prior to her being a ladys maid but she was known to the family and staff as Anna and they appeared to wish to continue to call her Anna after she became a ladys maid if there was not any objection. June, how did you feel about this weeks downstairs saga? Ill be awaiting them while munching on champagne-basted asparagus and Calvados-glazed duck. English actor Laura Carmichael doesn't have a problem with that. If Lord Grantham were to die, George would be the Earl of grantham. Anna had better watch out. The complete crackpot theory is that this was a cover for Matthews infertility, which the doctors wouldnt disclose to him, presumably to preserve his 1920s masculinity. Hes the downstairs Edith. Best wishes to you in the coming year. The present Countess of Grantham is Our Cora, wife to Robert. Hi James & Royal Central: That would be charming except the rest of the clip is just Downton Abbey cast members puzzling over her epic bad luck. Even Alfred the novice footmanaka tall, 1920s Landry Clarkedoesnt hesitate to walk all over him. After Edith disappeared, Lady Violet (Maggie Smith) went down to Rosamund (Samantha Bond) in London and said they should tell Cora (Elizabeth McGovern) about Edith's baby. I understand that they are called Lord and Lady Grantham, I just dont understand why they go by Violets last name. So she is styled, for she is not a Duchess, taking her title from her husband. Mary, who has men falling all over her, has provided an heir to continue the Grantham line and enjoys the services of a high profile ladys maid, Anna (does Edith do up her buttons herself?) They then called him Tom when he became part of the family although the dowager did so reluctantly. Daisy evolvedfrom being adowntrodden kitchen maid to a talented chef and naturalleader. It is nonsense to even ponder an impossibility. I guess she may not technically be a Lady's Maid but a "maid who does buttons and hooks". And he pretty much said, "I feel so sorry for you about your dead imaginary scandalous friend and your terrible shame that I will even lie to my wife about where I got this baby, because although it is quite a few decades early for this expression, I am picking up what you are putting down. 1,201, This story has been shared 1,163 times. I, toosomewhat uncharitably, I realizecracked up when the ceremony only got as far as Dearly beloved, we are gathered. (This is the second consecutive Downton reception weve been cheated out of. Where does Grantham come from? I do enjoy watching sad-sack Molesley endure an endless string of indignities. One cannot buy a title. Most of the other underdogs on Downton Abbey eventually get their due. Unless she marries a peer, and has that title, could become a Duchess or Countess, but can never be Dowager Countess of Grantham. I sorta left some parts out: they get an official ladys maid when theyre married or reach a certain age. In the movie, Bertie says they don't have servants with them (the inference being a valet and lady's maid who would normally travel with them) when they go to DA because they are "modern folk". Peerages are created by the British monarch, like all Crown honors, being affirmed by Letters Patent affixed with the Great Seal of the Realm. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});
, Royal Family set to join Queen for Christmas at Sandringham. A peer may be addressed as My Lord or Your Lordship or Sir. She is not a Princess. As she has married untitled Mr Henry Talbot she is Lady Mary Talbot. Why is the familys last name Crawley if that is Lord Granthams mothers last name? I also wondered this as I live in a town called grantham where Margret thatcher was born and wondered if there was a connection with the town. The Dowager Countess of Grantham. Upon learning Ediths secret, Rosamund travels to Downton Abbey to help her niece through her pregnancy, and suggests adoption options as the due date draws near. The farmer's wife spills the truth to Edith's mother, Lady Grantham. Hope you are doing well and had a great holiday season. Follow Decider onFacebookandTwitterto join the conversation, andsign up for our email newslettersto be the first to know about streaming movies and TV news! What We Know About Her Continued 'Today Show' Absence, Drew Barrymore and Ross Mathews Disgusted After Guy Fieri Feeds Them Spray Cheese on 'The Drew Barrymore Show', 'Jeopardy!' Shed be able to manage it on her own since she is the owner of London newspaper. Oh, but how I sighed when Ethel showed up among the slatterns. The farmer agreed to pretend to accept her story that this baby totally belonged to a terribly scandalous friend of Edith's, and Edith couldn't keep her in the house because of the terrible shame that would result from her family being associated with this scandalous friend. You must not have watched the entire series thus far, or you would know why Sybil was not mentioned. But would that be the ending that Edith deserves? It is television fiction. Perhaps Gregson will come back from the dead Germany and the family can be reunited at last. Sometimes the ex-wife wants to hold onto a title, but cannot. He is the original title holder and the titles of the rest of the Crawley family exist because he holds this title (well get onto why very shortly). For the most part, any of the staff that the family has routine contact with such as the butler, valet, footmen, chauffeur and ladys maids are called by their family name only. Well, the countys name is Grantham so, obviously, the Robert is Lord of Grantham. As she married two gentlemen with no title she was Lady Mary Crawley and Lady Mary Talbot. Bates and Anna, a lady's maid, have their budding relationship put on pause by Bates' wife, Vera, from whom Bates is estranged. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. These fan theories include secret parentage, undercover spies, and, of course, poison. Ms. Jenny, Thanks also to Hans for the helpful comment. Lady Marys son George is only five years old in the series finale of Downton Abbey. There is also Violet Crawley (played by Maggie Smith) who is Lord Granthams mother and the wife of the previous Lord Grantham. One of the soapiest subplots of Downton Abbey's first season involved poor Mr. Pamuk, the dashing Turkish diplomat who makes a fateful visit to the Abbey. But because Edith is Edith, he dumped her at the altar . However I like the titles of earl countess baron baroness sir lady. Staying Single: What Most People Do If They Divorce After 50. Never until they're married? Finally, a clear explanation of where Grantham comes from when it isnt anyones name! If not, why don't they? She is persistently tormented by an unknown feeling, a sort of vague discomfort at the knowledge of a possibly sinister presence . Last series, she was left heartbroken when Bertie Pelham called off their engagement after. The film had a very crowded plot, with all the old characters plus a lot of new ones, all deserving some screen time. The Earl of Grantham is a peer and the eldest son of the Earl of Grantham would be styled Viscount Downton, however the Viscount Downton wouldnt be a peer as he is using the title by right of his father, who actually is the title holder. Or at least, thats the official story. Maybe he'll die! My mom emailed me last week to complain that we didnt catch a glimpse of Marys. Then she met a newspaper editor named Michael, who offered her a job writing (yay! Well, to Americans this isnt obvious. But after Mary married Matthew, Anna was promoted to be Mary's personal lady's maid. Nothing. He swore his love to Edith, but nobody else believed he was the dead wealthy cousin he said he was and he bailed out as quickly as a writer who suddenly realizes he has no idea where this plotline is going. Please clarify. Maybe you get acreage, but no title as a peer. Dan Kois: Oh cmon, June. 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At times, the story of Edith has seemed needlessly sadistic, in that one eventually wonders how many ways (foiled by beautiful sister, dumped at the altar, abandoned in mystery, foiled by wife, foiled by another wife) one woman can be thumped with the giant rubber mallet of life until even the little cartoon birds flying over her head are dizzy. And when she actually met someone who liked her, he was driven off by Mary, who was angry at Edith for revealing that Mary's romantic activities were so amazing that they killed a Turkish guy. The son moves up to the earldom, his wife becomes the Countess of Grantham. 2,161, This story has been shared 1,804 times. Dear Shirley, The fact she can transform from drab Lady Edith to drop-dead gorgeous glamazon to walk the red carpet, and elicit reactions . And, of course, because Edith is Edith, she found herself taking television's most common journey: From Virginity To Pregnancy In One Encounter. What will the title of the daughter of Sybil and Branson be called when she grows up? Her only real sin in five seasons has been to vindictively reveal that Mr. Pamuk died in Lady Marys bed, and that action was born out of bitterness and resentment. The feeling inspired her to make peace with Mary and ask if they might get along better in the future. Its a perfectly fair, wonderful, and believable ending for Edith, which is why Im convinced it wont ever happen. So Edith gave her lady's maid time off for the duration of Edith's trip to Downton. Its in series 3, I wont ruin it for you. She should now that she has such a high status, but this particular Lady's Maid doesn't get much mention. The main question I have coming out of this episode: Whats left to resolve? Over six seasons of Downton Abbey , she has faced an unusually high number of heartbreaks and obstacles for a woman of aristocratic means, despite her . There, at the insistence of Aunt Rosamund, Edith placed her child informally not legally with some very nice Swiss people, apparently, but she almost immediately began having second thoughts. The kitchen maids wondered why she was so tired looking, she was reminded of her missing/presumed dead lover, she had to pretend to not care about her secret bastard daughter (whose name is Marigold for some reason), and she almost burned down the entire house after she drunkenly threw a book into the fire. But really, this is one of the first times Edith has well and truly made her own decision, in defiance of her family, and has taken care of business, as it were. A peer only ever uses their most senior title. So, at that point, I assume she doesn't. In a bit of a confusing adjunct to this, when the wife has no title of her own, the wife of a younger son is addressed as Lady (first name of husband). I was torn about the scene with Isobel and her fallen women. But because Edith is Edith, he dumped her at the altar in front of her horrified family, humiliating her in front of the very people who already felt sorry for her and considered her a lost cause who would be better off as the spinster they expected her to become than as the wife of this older disabled veteran (and shame on them, by the way). She would love to take the wind out of your sailsif you were excited about something, it was only a matter of time untilpunch! Dinah would be sure to bring her down. If you have anyquestions relating to the titles used on Downton Abbey, leave them in the comments box below. Now that the eldest girl has the same succession rights as the eldest boy in the royal family, has this affected the eldest girl of an earl or duke so they too take the highest secindary title instead of Lady + first name? Unlucky in love, unlucky in life. Stevenson: This almost felt like Ediths supervillain origin story. Both Lord and Lady Grantham have blue eyes, but their eldest daughter, Mary, has brown eyes. This sub-plot mirrors the truth about what goes on in so many families, where often an older sister is ruthless in her need to keep her rivals head underwater so she can shine. When Lord Grantham inherited the title Earl of Grantham, the title Viscount Downton, became his subsidiary title. She found her literal voice. downtonabbey.fandom.com. 18,354, This story has been shared 11,875 times. Her aunt bundled her off to Switzerland for the mysterious, months-long absence everyone either agreed to consider not suspicious at all or actually did not consider suspicious because they cannot imagine Edith having a sex life. A parent with brown eyes might carry the recessive blue eye gene (i.e. So before the 3 Crawley girls were married, Anna was a housemaid and looked after all 3 girls. If Robert had two sons, lets just say he named them Thomas and William. In season 3, Lady Mary claims to have undergone a small operation that will help her start a family with Matthew. Cookie Notice By Dan Kois, Seth Stevenson, and June Thomas. Edith is justthere. I took a tiny bit of (guilty) pleasure in the working-class womens mockery of herthough in true high-Tory style, Julian Fellowes had the woman who made fun of Isobel be a lazy good-for-nothing who is constantly demanding to be handed a fish rather than signing up for fishing lessons. Due to the familys commitment to avoiding any unpleasantness, the only thing that could mitigate this dynamic, the intervention of the parents, does not take place. After that, Edith decided to start a little thing with a married farmer, but his wife found out, and it was adios to Old MacDonald. Kois: Seth, I wonder about this, too. Would he be Viscount Downton? I'm not sure if Edith would insist on a lady's maid because of her history as 'Poor Edith.' For more information, please see our Thank you! We have many more delightfully implausible frolics ahead of us. Was it tradition back then to use the womens last name? There's something evil going on in that stately home in the rolling hills of Yorkshire, and it's a lot more nefarious than the re-bedding of the body of the expired Turkish gentleman. Thomas: Well, it looks like were being set up for another rerun: The question of what Ethel the housemaid-turned-prostitute should do with her son. Another old custom, often written into the fathers will when a daughter inherits estate & titles with no surviving brothers, and then marries. There doesnt always appear to be a firm rule among this group except in the way they address the butler, housekeeper and cook and vice versa. Sibling rivalries are fairly normal, but these two take it to a whole other level. It would, however, be incorrect to refer to Lady Grantham as Lady Cora. Even Molesley, who could be considered the Jerry of Downton Abbeyhasstarted to win the admiration of the new lady maid, Baxter. I dont know why this is so but it is the tradition. It is a style only, not a title or an ennoblement. Inspired by soap operas and weepy 1950s melodramas, John Waters combines the conventions of that genre (soft lighting, teary organ music) with William Castle-like gimmickry for his most polished, biggest budgeted film yet. 1 Comment. But Dan is also correct that the entire Edith wedding sequence was some dang good Downton. Neat. So, dear, poor Edith continues to live in terror of being discovered by the one person who should care most about protecting herher older sister. Edith's full title is The Most Honourable Lady Edith Pelham, Marchioness of Hexham (and any other subsidiary titles Bertie has). 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