A temple they constructed at Rawwafa, 200 miles north of Medina, mentions the following in a Greek-Nabataean bilingual inscription: For the wellbeing of the rulers of the whole world . and make your home on the heights, According to the Quran, they were hit by a blast that destroyed them. There is a popular historical show in Saudi Arabia with Eid Al-Yahya where they visit the area of Madain Saleh and he definitely makes a credible case showing that Madain Saleh has indications of being built by Thamud, but being used and completed by the Nabateans. The wordings themselves state so and all the tafaseer also state this. Marcus Aurelius Anthoninus and Lucius Aurelius Verus, who are the conquerors of the Armenians. Its almost impossible to know for certain that the many tombs with Nabatean inscriptions are indeed constructed by them, especially when we know that only 15% of the area in Petra has been excavated and examined. Rather, it tells us to look at the region in which Thamud had existed as well as the many generations after them. A number of them branched out, which later became independent tribes (sub-tribes). One Who missed the Friday Prayer should pray Zuhr: Moving the Finger in Tashahhud : Fatwa Collection_ 40 short hadiths filled with wisdom. Another inscription from the same temple mentions Aad by name, and reads, by Ghawth son of Aslah son of Thokam and he constructed the temple of Allt, of the people of Ad. Are these tourist sites now identified at Madian Saleh the same as those we see discussed in the saheeh ahadith during the Tabuk expedition or is that a different location because these sites are identified as built by Nabataens and not Thamud and are considered much later than Thamud people (if we consider the finds to be absolutely authentic that these are Nabataens who built them. We have heard a message from the LORD: Long before the Roman empire, before Alexanders conquests, even before the great Persian monarchs, there were the Assyrians lords of much of the Middle East, and archetypes of almost every empire that came after them. I look forward to your response my dear brother. 85 percent of the region is still untouched, and hidden. I think its just like 43:47, 21:12, 32:26 and 37:73. The tribes of Arabia descend from either one of the two Arab ancestors, Adnan or Qahtan. The Edomites were proud of their wealth and riches, which they had by robberies amassed together; and of their military skill and courage, and of their friends and allies; and especially of their fortresses and fastnesses, both natural and artificial; and therefore thought themselves secure, and that no enemy could come at them to hurt them, and this deceived them: thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock; According to Arab traditions, tribes are divided into different divisions called Arab skulls ( ), which is a term given to a group of tribes of the Arabian Peninsula, which are described in the traditional custom of strength, abundance, victory, and honor. Why? Accordingly, the Thamud were a powerful and idolatrous tribe living in Hegra, now called Madin li, the Cities of liin northwestern Arabia. But unlike most of the others, these two stand out for not having any clear counterpart in the Judeo-Christian tradition a wellspring of Middle Eastern traditions, of which Islam draws in so small measure. The Edomites and Thamud the fate and remains of past generations with our eyes bcuz verse 25:37 speaks about the people of Nuh AS and it tells us that Allah SWT left a sign for mankind. Instead, the camel is killed by a certain "accursed Amar", and the camel's foal stands upon a rock and curses Thamud, leading to the tribe's annihilation except for a single lame woman who is spared to spread the message of the destruction. The ruined abandoned wells and ruined lofty palaces were present at the time of the Prophet (). The Thamud were scientists. In the historical and archaeological record, both were contemporaries, but by the time of the Prophet in the 7th century AD, they had become little more than a distant memory, and their ruins, places of myth and legend. Both groups of people were located on the Arabian Peninsula. al-Hijr, the second most important centre of the Nabataean empire, is the title of the 15th chapter of the Quran. The points raised by alfinlandi are very reasonable to counter the points of the article. The Ghassanids increased the Semitic presence in the then Hellenized Syria, the majority of Semites were Aramaic peoples. I guess it can be said that the Nabataeans can be considered one of the nations succeeding the people of Thamud. These prefixes ignored in the alphabetical ordering: Al, Bani, Banu. Required fields are marked *. Sahih International. Assalam alikum so is 89:9 present tense or past tense the altheana jabbu al sakrah bilwadi bit and you are saying that the thamud dwellings have gone destroyed after the prophets time, And Is madain al saleh wadi alQura or is wadi alqura some where else, And do you think there houses were destroyed before or after ibn kathir and could the land of thamud be petra ir yemon because there is a town called thamud in yemon, And does 27:52 mean there dwellings were destroyed or empty and could 89:9 mean there dwellings just of been caves in the prophets the outside gone fallen if you know what I mean and can. Many centuries elapse before we find Thamud again in the textual record, though their name crops up many times in (undated) inscriptions throughout North Arabia. However, inside most of them is only a small room about three to four square meters in size. (3). 5. When Allah sent their brother Salih (AS) to advise them of the true faith, they rejected him just like the Aad had rejected Hud before. Like the people of Ad, they erected huge buildings on the plains and hewed beautiful homes out of the hills. It makes it specific but is not related to time. It seems we gonna have some proper analysis on this case, and Allah (as) knows best! As we know, he gave the nations some period until the determined day of punishment. It is very conceivable that those individuals who established this society became the pillars of the nation and their descendents took advantage of that and maintained a stranglehold on the wealth of the nation. For the town in Yemen, see, sfn error: no target: CITEREFEph'al1984 (, "Al-Hijr Archaeological Site (Madin Slih)", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thamud&oldid=1132970365, This page was last edited on 11 January 2023, at 16:00. Thus, the possibility exists that the Edomites copied the mountainous dwellings of the Thamud, just as the Nabateans may have copiedor took over the architectural style of the Edomites or the Thamud and added their own flavor. [24] These tribes advanced in large numbers all the way to Morocco, contributing to a more extensive ethnic, genetic, cultural, and linguistic Arabization in the region. What are the Sunnahs and etiquettes that we should >>> , - ?____ Fatwa . Certainly many of these ancient civilizations were advanced for their times and certainly more advanced than the Arabs as they had very little structures and civilization development and they were tribal societies and not big cities. Though no one knows for sure when either of these groups existed, it is clear from the Quran that the Aad were successors to the people of Noah. Even though we dont know for sure how this succession took place, I like to think that perhaps there were a few survivors from that windstorm that wiped them out. You may look at any tafsir, these Ayaat are general and simply refer to destroyed civilisations which may be Indus Valley (Mohenjodaro, Harappa), Sodom, and Pompeii among many others. Nabateans built over them means in general sense; it does not mean that each and every building was replaced by the Nabateans. The caliphate also allowed the migration of Arab tribes to Egypt. Chaldeans formed when actual tribe of thamud perished so you are not correct . [Qur'an . They were a little more inquisitive (at least at first). They are aws and athiri in origin with element of arphaxad 3) The tombs were in fact built by Thamud as houses and the Nabateans simply inscribed them later. The 2 verses are very generic in that they describe the general civilizations over time that have been destroyed or have perished but their signs remain behind. God then destroyed the tribe, except for Salih and a few other righteous men. No, not at all. In other words either the evidence no longer exists (no problem) or Thamudic dwellings in North West Arabia are. Like some of the tombs have window openings and some of the niches are not much more wide than a hand, which hardly can serve as a resting place for a human body. Honestly I dont understand the confusion at and all of it has been dealt with above. [13] Robath is likely the ancient name of modern al-Ruwfa. Most decent Muslims would never do such a thing, but there are many misguided people who do. - _ taf . Aad and Thamud are two of several communities described in the Quran as recipients of Gods chosen prophets and being utterly destroyed for rejecting them. Regardless, the thamud tribes structures remained for people to see according to Quran. Q.28:58 is general: And how many a city have We destroyed that was insolent in its [way of] living, and those are their dwellings which have not been inhabited after them except briefly. The Quran on the Cerebrum: _ Qur'an and Science. Later still, we find them mentioned by Ptolemy (d. 168AD), in his Geography.6. A similar narrative can be found in Jeremiah 49:16 Shaitan (Satan) made their deeds fair-seeming to them, and turned them away from the (Right) Path, though they were intelligent. The same can be said of Median Saleh, much of the area is still hidden under sand. We have to be open to the idea that a person living thousands of years ago will have a different concept of a place of dwelling than we, in the 21st century, do. My people, this camel belongs to God, a sign for you, so leave it to pasture on God's earth and do not harm it, or you will soon be punished." We do not take it as a science book and neither should we take it as a book of archaeology. They built buildings on the land and also carved them in hills. From about the 2nd century BCE, a few inscriptions from Qaryat al-Faw reveal a dialect no longer considered proto-Arabic, but pre-classical Arabic. The Rashaida of Sudan and Eritrea live in close proximity with the Beja people. [27:49]. Is al ula walid al qura Surviving quotations from Agatharchides's On the Erythrean Sea, from the second century BCE, reports that the Thamud Arabs then inhabited a "stony and large shore" of the Arabian coastline, south of the Gulf of Aqaba. And you said the nabteons built over them so if they built over them all then how could the prophet see them or the quran describe them when they were built over by them and by the time the prophet came because the nabateans came before jazzakkallah, But these are the last 5 questions and thats it sorry to keep bothering you it is that Im getting all the information I can so if Im ever questioned then I can answer them jazzakkallah, Sorry just 2 more but thats it most of these questions are yes or no This came to pass, and Thamud was annihilated. God sent down a milch camel as his sign, and Salih told his countrymen that they should not harm the camel and allow it to drink from their well. However this would not explain why the Prophet () referred to the houses as Thamuds dwellings. 2) The dwellings of Thamud are elsewhere in the valley of Hijr. The Aad and Thamud were both located in the northwestern part of modern day Saudi Arabia near the border of Jordan. Allah does not want wrong for the servants. The facades vary in height and in the richness of their decorations. Assalam alikum forget the rest of what Ive put down but I was just wondering does 36:41 prove that every one on the earth comes from the people of tge ark if yes then how does that work because people could still see thamud dwellings so that means they could only come thousands of years of go but we know noah had to come near them but we know humans have been here at least 40 thousand bc so how do we explain this, Assalam alikum thanks for the answers but thamud had to be destroyed no lesser than 3000 bc not 800 bc jazzakallah because thamud came before Abraham jazzakallah but thanks, Also if the quran says the area is wadi al qura then madian al saleh is not wadi al qura jazzakallah but thanks, But of course in there empire day they would of probably built in wadi al qura and al ula and madian al saleh and else where in there area because they would of had a large population any where between 20 thousand to 50 thousand people because mekkah and median together came to 20-40 thousand people in the prophets day and 40:21 says these people were more in population so they had to be more than mekkah and median, Assalam alikum also dies 7:74 mean that Thamud were the descendents of ad or not or were they they descendents of ad jazzakallah. Indeed, we see in you foolishness and indeed, we think you are of the liars.Chapter 7, Verse 66, Have you come to us that we should worship Allah and leave what our fathers worshiped? The Aad and the Thamud are two nations mentioned several times in the Quran. Is their carved construction still there today? Trudy Ring, Noelle Watson, Paul Schellinger. The hadiths show that there were wells present in that particular spot attributed to the Thamud. The Akkadians are the Arameans who are the Chaldeans who are the Nabateans who absorbed The Amorites. The Thamd are infrequently mentioned in contemporary indigenous Arabian sources, although two Safaitic inscriptions carved some time between the first century BCE and the fourth century CE refer to "the year of the war between Gm and the tribe of Thamd [snt rb gm l md]". How archeologists date the tombs and other structures is primarily based on the inscriptions found in them. But they almost always have some other deities included in their pantheon. ** For what purpose is the tale of 'd and Thamd? Verses 15:80-83describe its inhabitants as carving their homes out of mountains and being decimated by a loud shriek characteristics ascribed by the Quran elsewhere to the people of Thamud2. Let me explain who they are People Aad, and they are said to be called Aad by the name of their father, an extinct Arab tribe mentioned in the Qur'an . Your email address will not be published. [21], A hadith tradition preserved in the a al-Bukhr collection narrates that the Islamic prophet Muhammad called Hegra "the land of Thamud" and did not allow his troops to drink from its wells or to use its water, and to never enter its ruins "unless weeping, lest occur to you what happened to them. These verses can be found in multiple books, we will focus on Obadiah and Jeremiah. As regarding to the Ahadith from Ibn Umar (as), they seem to be a interpretation of him itself, the prophet (as) says nothing about them. Al-ijr, Saudi Arabia: ancient Thamd house, This article was most recently revised and updated by. Before sending the punishment on them, Allah sent two prophets to these nations. This is the temple that was built by the tribal unit of Thamd, the leaders of their unit, so that it might be established by their hands and be their place of veneration forever with the support of Antistius Adventus, the governor. The Thamud demanded and received a sign from Allah. After all, camels were and still are pretty common in that part of the world. The following commentary on the verses from Obadiah, found in biblestudytools.com, is rather revealing. I would rather think that the Thamud were more like two or three hundred years after the Aad. Hud tried to reason with his people by reminding them of the many favors Allah had given them. This is the temple that was built by the tribal unit of Thamud, the leaders of their unit, so that it might be established by their hands and be their place of veneration for ever7. On the first day, their skin would turn yellow; on the second day, red; and on the final day of destruction, black. They are mentioned in the Quran as examples of civilizations that Allah had destroyed because of their sins and as signs of the fleeting nature of the worldly power. In my research, I did discover that the tombs do contain pre-Nabatean inscriptions. Missionaries and polemicists seize upon the error of this folklore as an alleged example of the error of the Quran, but in reality, this is not the case. In addition, when the verses talk about Verily there is a sign in this, it doesnt necessarily mean that we have to see the sign i.e. The Thamud ( Arabic: , romanized : amd) were an ancient Arabian tribe or tribal confederation [1] that occupied the northwestern Arabian peninsula between the late-eighth century BCE, when they are attested in Assyrian sources, and the fifth century CE, when they served as Roman auxiliaries. that that Thamud did it then the edomites took over then the nabteaons but all I know is that Thamud existed before 3000 bc so 3000 bc is probably when they were destroyed then the edomites revamped them made them look new then the nabteaons did the same and I believe the tribe of ad was destroyed weather 5-8 thousand bc and I believe noahs flood was around the ending off the ice age what was between 10-13 thousand bc became the population of the world was only 1 million at 10 thousand bc and no more than 20 million people at 5000 bc what makes stuff interesting but as a side note if the quran does say that noahs people was the first to commit shirk then ad then thamud but none at the same time or between then thamud had to come before 9000 bc so that was when they would be destroyed because the gobeki tepe was built then and that was definitely pagan shirk but this is my opion but thanks, And of course ad was the descendents of noah and thamud was the descendents of ad. Secondly, the Ayaat are not only meant for the Sahaba, they are also for us and for all times and so when the Quran asks the readers to look at what happened to those before, it is meant for us as well. They may have even intermingled to the point of losing any distinction along ethnic lines as there is no good reason or evidence to preclude the idea that the Thamud also ventured and lived in Petra and the surrounding areas. and make your nest among the stars, The shout, which is an extremely loud sound, might have caused the earthquake, according to certain scholars. [20] The traditional Muslim view is that the destruction of Thamud occurred before the prophethood of Abraham. According to Dr. Nehme, a senior research scientist at the French National Center for Scientific Research, the Nabateans have left us with almost no written material that would shed any light on their origins or even daily affairs. Aben Ezra thinks that caph, the note of similitude, is wanting; and that the sense is, thou thoughtest that Mount Seir could secure thee, as they that dwell in the clefts of a rock: whose habitation [is] high; upon high rocks and mountains, such as Mount Seir was, where Esau dwelt, and his posterity after, him. While certain online Christian communities are abuzz with elation and glee, some Muslims are faced with difficulties in formulating a proper response to the latest Christian accusation. This structure is not only large enough to house several individuals, but contains benches which suggests that it served some social function, hence it can qualify to be called a place of dwelling. Rise, let us go against her for battle of 'Ad and Thamud by name. And remember when He made you successors after the Aad and settled you in the land?Chapter 7, Verse 74. And perhaps, just like the Aad before them, they forgot the faith of Tawheed practiced by their ancestors and slipped into worhsiping idols. People descended with the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, to the valley of Hijr, the land of Thamud, and they drank from the wells and kneaded flour with it. He said: ., Do not enter (the dwelling places) of these people unless you enter weeping, but if you weep not, then do not enter upon them, lest you be afflicted with what they were afflicted with [Bukhari]. They are of Arab origin, but now of mixed blood mostly with Nilo-Saharans and Nubians. God knows best. Prior to the Muslim conquest of Egypt, Egypt was under Greek and Roman influence. If the Bible tells us nothing more, at least it illustrates that carving out structures on mountains predated the Nabateans, and that is all we need to refute the Christian allegation against the Quran. Traditionally, both the prophets Hud and Saleh and by implication, their respective communities Aad andThamud, are thought to have existed generations before Abraham, placing them well before 1300 BC (at the very least1). The ruins were identified by the Prophet (s) as belonging to those who wronged themselves, without ascribing them to the very first tribe of Thamud. The Aad and Thamud were both located in the northwestern part of modern day Saudi Arabia near the border of Jordan. I will post the links here for now. 4. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . 9. Their responses, while snarky, were fairly simple. who occupy the heights of the hill. Such an amazing thing was supposed to be their sign. SUHIH MUSLIM _ THE BOOK OF HEART-MELTING TRADITION 40 Hadith Qudsi_ Al Nawawi's Forty Hadith. Asking the deceased for supplications or intercession? declares the LORD. And you said the inside has to be bigger how big do you think it has to be inside like the inside of petra or smaller or bigger and how many rooms do you think there should of been or do you think the inside of madion al saleh is the right size sorry for all the questions but these are it then I wont ask any more questions Im justin putting them all so then thats it jazzakkallah, This is also part of 4. It had no written law, but the tribal leader played the role of ruler. Archaeological Site of Al-Hijr (Madin Slih), Forty Hadith al-Nawawi in English and Arabic, Al-Aqidah al-Tahawiyyah in English and Arabic, Forty Hadith on Purification of the Heart. And they were also well-built because they still exist today. what enemy, ever so warlike and powerful, will venture to invade my land, or besiege me in my strong hold? Theres no real reason to mention them lastly, except they came after al-Rass and they are also included in this chronological order as well. Further confirmation of their service under the Romans, comes via a late 4th (or early 5th century) military document Notitia Dignitatum, which clealy mentions two cavalry units of Thamud, one serving in Egypt and the other in Palestine. God destroyed them. Much of the lineage provided before Ma'ad relies on biblical genealogy, so questions persist concerning the accuracy of this segment of Adnanite Arab genealogy. [27], The migration of Arab tribes to Mesopotamia began in the seventh century, and by the late 20th century constituted about three quarters of the population of Iraq. Eventually, they demanded proof for what Salih was saying. Do you construct on every elevation a sign amusing yourselves? Im also inclined to believe that these nine families were the direct descendents of those believers who escaped the land of the Aad with Hud. 'Ad and Thamud are closely connected by both Islamic and pre-Islamic sources. Just leave her alone. They trace their lineage to Abbas, uncle of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. They were Giants and so powerful. They also earned income by transporting goods and people in caravans pulled by domesticated camels across the desert. Or just left relics in land 6. Now are they fully destroyed now over the 1400 years or are mixed with the newer nabataens, True but many people say when it says travel the land it is normally speaking about ad and thamud because they are the closest cant atharan mean just marks not marks left behind like 30:50 when it says effects it doesnt mean left behind effects because allah would mean left behind so what can atharan thanks for replying back all the time, Because even if these verses are saying thamud and AD it is saying there better than there houses but how can they if they were in advance state of decay because we cant see ad houses left so they had to be in advance stat of decay so if they were how could they be better then there houses because these verse would be more talking about ad more than thamud any hence in the verse they were mightier because ad called them selfs mightier, Arabic language has been heavily borrowed from by the Urdu language spoken widely in Pakistan and India. Hud was from among the Aad himself, as Allah mentions in the Quran: Aad denied the Messengers when their brother Hud said to them: Will you not fear Allah?Chapter 26, Verses 124 125. They mixed with the people of Qahtan and descendants of Prophet Abraham pbuh. And [We destroyed] 'Aad and Thamud and the companions of the well and many generations between them. due to the belief as mentioned in the Quran that warners were sent to all Nations. 11. Success comes from Allah, and Allah knows best. Guiding Romantic Desire: Wisdom in the Sexual Ethics of Islam, Custodianship of the Right Hand: Concubinage, Rape, and Sexual Slavery in Islam. Year_ May , 2021 -. This poses problematic. 2. By not on the surface, I mean that they did not exist like a proper city or open to any passer by and were deep inside some unvisited territory. The same can be said about 7:84 where Allah SWT is telling us to SEE the end of Sodom and Gomorrah. Based on the Quranic and Biblical evidence, and the lack of archeological evidence which can conclusively show that every single structure that is excavated, and those that will be excavated in the future, are all Nabatean in origin, I believe carving out structures on hills and mountains originated with the Thamud, which was later adopted by the Edomites, which later still, was adopted by the Nabateans. The Bible Verily, Thamud disbelieved in their Lord. Not every opinion that he held was necessarily a divine revelation. So proceed through the earth and observe how was the end of the deniers. (Quran 16:36). Well, next to nothing. Saudi Arabia, in terms of archaeology, is really untouched. But despite all of this advice, the Aad rejected their brother Hud. Part 1_ The story of Musa. The tribes of Ad and Thamud were ancient people who existed on the Arabian Peninsula many centuries ago and were recipients of the Prophets Hud and Salih, respectively. This law they hold because they judge that those who possess these things will be easily compelled by powerful men to do what is ordered them because of their enjoyment of these things. So youd then say that the buildings at Madain Salih were indeed originally Thamudic and then after that built upon by other nations? However, now none may be visible and what is visible now are those made centuries later. Then bring us what you promise us if you are among the truthful.Chapter 7, Verse 70, It is all the same to us if you advise us are not from among the advisors. Revisionists are conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theories sell so in order to make quick money and get fame, some western pseudo scholars propagate this absurd conspiracy theory. It was these nine families that cause much of the problems for Salih. 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